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Vince - we are the world, we are the children. said (21/8/2009 at 9:54 PM):
how are u
David said (21/8/2009 at 11:27 PM):
back
ok

David says (12:02 AM):
had beer?
going for an interview tomorrow. Behringer. but I'd rather work with you if the pay is the same anytime of the day.
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:03 AM):
you won't find out so soon
my boss moves slowly
David says (12:04 AM):
unfortunately bills move at a constant speed
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:05 AM):
that applies to us all
David says (12:06 AM):
yeah
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:06 AM):
which includes her
she's trying to find budget to get the magazine a new writer and sales person
it'll all depend on whether the money exists in the projections. u know how business is
David says (12:06 AM):
yes
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:13 AM):
what pay wld they offer
David says (12:15 AM):
don't know
senior manager, business intelligence
u think?
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:15 AM):
4 to 5
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:16 AM):
http://www.mom.gov.sg/publish/momportal/en/communities/others/mrsd/Publications/ReportonWages_2008/Statistical_Table.html
David says (12:18 AM):
ok
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:19 AM):
showed my cousin the same link
he asked "am i earning too little"
David says (12:19 AM):
it's under business development
4500 to 9300
think I'll ask for 5500
David says (12:20 AM):
this is an mnc
how much is he earning?
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:20 AM):
i wldn't put it that way.
its an mnc, but you are you.
he's getting 2.5k
David says (12:20 AM):
isn't the employer the point in the list?
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:21 AM):
hmmm i don't really care for the list
the point is to get the job
if the guy interviewing is a singpaorean, then he knows what money means in sg
David says (12:21 AM):
yes
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:21 AM):
every 500 buck difference has meaning in his eyes
so called street knowledge...
David says (12:21 AM):
this company just fired off the entire department due to "creative accounting"
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:22 AM):
its all up to whether u think your price is right to get hired
not abt what you are worth
David says (12:22 AM):
ok
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:23 AM):
if u put yourself on the low end of reasonable, you get the job
David says (12:23 AM):
ok
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:23 AM):
if you perform well, you get a superlative raise
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:24 AM):
if you continue at that level, you get to move to a better company with better pay
tts how getting a job works
outside of that, daytime televison.
David says (12:24 AM):
ok
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:25 AM):
my first job paid me 2.2k ... at SICC
im certainly worth more
but i took it, i told them i'd take 1.8 even
they hired me at 2.2
let them low ball you
if they are a worthy organisation to work for, they'll up the figure all on their own.
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:26 AM):
if not you pay your bills and stay alert for a better one
i also told sicc tt i wanted a career, not a job to pay bills
i was 30
hmm wait i was 31 pls
David says (12:27 AM):
ok
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:27 AM):
so i weighed my cons and my plusses and took a dedal
deal
2.2k to start is what other nus grads start at but im smarter and more experienced so i'd rise faster since im sure i'd perform better
tts what u got to pull dude....
forget abt the starting pay
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:28 AM):
if u were worth a high starting pay u wldn't need to find work now
get a job, then earn that pay
if they don't appreciate you just find someone who does


In his book 'Adventures in the Screen Trade', screenwriter William Goldberg talks about story meetings with the producers who fund their films.

In it, the story goes, when the producers hear something they dislike, they say "Don't make me bring out the monster in the cage, Bill."

In that story, the monster is their money.

It's THEIR money.

It's *their* money.

For Christ's sake, it's their money, which they are spending, for you to do a job to earn them more money.


How on Earth can you not understand that?


man in the mirror says (12:50 AM):
ahh
their money
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:50 AM):
yes. not yours.
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:51 AM):
so u dun propose a salary you want. you propose a salary THEY want.
man in the mirror says (12:51 AM):
=)
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:51 AM):
u have to be really stupid or rich to not realise how it works.





man in the mirror says (12:51 AM):
okie
Vince - coz its so funny warnee says (12:53 AM):
its the Monster in the cage
every time your boss asks you to do something
u always say yes
because otherwise they will bring the monster out.
man in the mirror says (12:53 AM):
yep
hahaha


Brain fried tonight through misuse
Through misuse, through misuse
You can't avoid static abuse
Abuse, abuse

Without these pills you're let loose
You're let loose, you're let loose
Take off, get out, no excuse
No excuse, no excuse

What's that coming over the hill
Is it a monster? Is it a monster?
What's that coming over the hill
Is it a monster? Is it a monster?
What's that coming over the hill
Is it a monster? Is it a monster?
What's that coming over the hill?

Confused, mind bruised, it seeps out
It seeps out, it seeps out
Face down, home town looks so grey
Looks so grey, looks so grey

Convexed you bend, twist and shout
Twist and shout, twist and shout
Stand up brush off get moving
Get moving, get moving

What's that coming over the hill
Is it a monster? Is it a monster?
(x4)

Face down, home town, face down, home town
Face down, home town, it looks so grey
(x4)

What's that coming over the hill
Is it a monster? Is it a monster?
(x4)

Writer: HAWKINS, ROBIN/FROST, JAMES/GRIFFITHS, IWAN
Lyrics © EMI Music Publishing

I should add that if they are good bosses and you have an ounce of backbone, neither of you need ever talk about the Monster.


Won't it be nice to be able to choose good bosses?


All it takes is backbone, or a damn healthy bank balance.

It's a 3-way between balls, boss, or bank.