----- Original Message -----
From: Vincent Wong
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 1:40 AM
Subject: Re: request


A note for you, you better take note of ALL the things I've said, not just some.

Everything I have bothered to say is for a reason.


----- ANOTHER Original Message (not so long ago) -----

Always remember that there are people watching you and thinking about your contribution. Office politics sucks but it exists.

That is work. When you go out to work, it will be 100 times worse than here in Ping.


Good night and hope to see your story tomorrow.


----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 12:07 AM
Subject: RE: request

Hi Vincent,

Okay I understand where you are coming from. Im really sorry about what happened. I have taken note of some of the things you said. Will not repeat the same thing in the future.

I am currently doing the article. Will have sent to you before work tomorrow.

Sorry once again about what happened.

Thank you.

Regards,
Intern #12

> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:45:10 +0800
> From: vincent@nowhereman.com
> To: Intern #12
> Subject: Re: request
>
>
>
> Intern #12, since you explained yourself, now it is my turn
> to explain myself and my reactions. You're an intern
> still so I will make the effort to explain exactly why
> none of what you said in your previous 2 emails matter
> one bit to me. Anyone else would have got the boot.
>
>
>
> 1. You accepted the two articles on the 4th Dec. 16
> days for two articles is quite enough for anyone. You
> seem to get off work every day on time. I don't see
> any signs of overload/overwork - admin priority or not.
>
> 2. You may be a mass comm student or an economics
> student or an engineering student, but when you write
> for me, a deadline is a deadline. Do deadlines work
> differently for molecular biologists? Because then you
> should have said so and I would have said, "I
> see ..." and then we could both laugh about it.
>
> 3. Why are your explanations all about you, what
> you want and what you need to do to get it, and none
> of the two emails about what I want, and what you'll
> do to help me have that? Am I working for you now?
>
> 4. I'm scolding you here, and you are still not
> getting it. Let me reconfirm that I am (still)
> officially very pissed and want to let you know
> without actually losing my temper. All I needed from
> you was a "Sorry, Vincent, for leaving you high and
> dry. I know I left you in the lurch. I'll try not to
> do it again." and then actually mean it. Instead, you
> wrote me two emails to clarify yourself and to say
> that I've misunderstood you!
>
> 5. I want you to know that this is not about
> misunderstandings on my part. I can read, you know. I
> know what you were trying to say, I understand where
> you come from, and I am crystal clear that this is all
> about how you have discharged your responsibilities
> irresponsibly. Now instead of just saying sorry,
> you're telling me a long tale hoping for me to let you
> off. But it is called a hard deadline for a reason.
>
> 6. Driving and chinese classes being time
> constraints = " I better take it as can't finish your
> story." are "wowsers". Why even mention the classes?
> How do you think that is supposed to make me feel?
> I'll tell you - it makes me think that you went ahead
> and assumed I'd write the article for you, so why
> bother even trying for a Monday submission instead.
> Any other freelance writer would have apologised for
> the delay and went ahead and sent me the draft,
> whether it was a hard deadline or not. And they won't
> dare ask for payment. That is integrity.
>
> 7. Admin is your first priority ... okay ... Is
> your workload that heavy? You come on time and leave
> on time. I've never asked you to work overtime because
> of editorial work, only that please submit your story
> on time. The only admin thing I know you need to do is
> to keep the store room tidy which it never is. Just
> because nobody comments doesn't mean it is actually
> tidy. Someone is doing the work to keep it looking
> neat.
>
> You may not like working in there, but just because
> you are a girl doesn't mean you can't sweat - Yan
> Hong, Chloe, and Yih Ling especially have lost buckets
> doing the same things you are supposed to be doing.
>
> 8. I have had interns from your faculty who COULDN'T
> WRITE TO SAVE THEIR LIFE (Yu Fang, Jun Hui and Yih
> Ling spring to mind). Still they turned in their
> stories - sometimes late, but never on the day itself
> have they ever told me it can't be done and left me
> feeling like a fool.
>
> All of them had heavier admin workloads than you as
> there were multiple events happening in the months
> they were interning here. And Yih Ling did both
> editorial work and events/admin all by herself - many
> times staying till 10pm to finish up.
>
> So, unless you are willing to tell me that you've been
> busting your butt all of those 16 days to come through
> with the articles for me, there is just no reason to
> let me know on the date of SUBMISSION itself that you
> can't send me the article!
>
> Really, not even a draft? How about some research I
> can use? Nothing?
>
>
>
>
> In short, Intern #12, step up and deliver. "I'm not a mass
> comm student, this is not the original scope of my
> work, I have to spend more time on researching
> business because this is just a minor for me", all
> these are excuses. You're just giving yourself an easy
> out for everytime that you can't deliver. Have you put
> in the hard work and hours needed? Did you set aside
> time to check your emails and monitor where you are in
> terms of timeline? Is this internship a priority in
> your life?
>
> If there is somewhere else you want to be, everybody
> can tell. It shows up in your work ethics, the way you
> tidy up the loose ends of the tasks you are assigned,
> the way you take initiative in helping the rest of us.
> We all love our interns, but we all know which ones
> are slacking and which ones are doing their best. I
> want you to know that I've always been kind to our
> interns - just ask Chloe Tan, who flew my aeroplane
> right on the very last day she left and yet we still
> said hi when we bumped into each other at a Suntec
> event.
>
>
> You want a good grade on your FYP? Be like Yih Ling. I
> wrote her a fantastic work-attachment evaluation which
> I hope helped her get into NTU. She was offered a
> place in both NUS and NTU, but she chose NTU because
> it gave her a year advancement. And she deserves it.
>
> No point getting a grade A on your FYP presentation
> and report, Intern #12, and getting a shitty work-attachment
> evaluation from me.
>
>
>
> If you still think you are right and I have
> misunderstood, then a few months of work elsewhere
> where people have shorter tempers and even more
> critical deadlines will set you straight.
>
> Please let me have the article by tonight, latest
> tomorrow. I give you till end of Tuesday.
>
> We'll see from there if you're able to take on stories
> for LWB.
>
> I hope you learn from this.
>
>
> Vincent.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Intern #12 Selvaraj
> To: vincent@nowhereman.com
> Cc: peggy@nowhereman.com ; mace@nowhereman.com
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 5:32 PM
> Subject: RE: request
>
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I would also like to clarify something else before any
> misunderstanding.
>
> I have only went on a full day mc for two days. Those
> two days were on the Monday and Tuesday of last week.
> In other cases where I leave for an half day, I still
> provide mc if it is assosciated with my health. If I
> was only unwell due to normal flu and fever, I would
> have still done those articles. However, I was in pain
> and was not in a position to write the articles.
>
> Most of my MCs submitted are from the polyclinic which
> do not issue MC unless if it is really needed unlike
> private clinics. If MC is not given by the polyclinic,
> a time out sheet is given.
>
> Please do kindly take note of this.
>
> Once again, I do not have any other intentions other
> that to prevent any future misunderstandings.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Intern #12
>
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I'm very sorry but I think that you are getting this
> wrongly. Please let me explain.
>
> Firstly, I indicated the 'AND' in capital letters and
> underline beacuse I would like to emphasize on the
> fact that I do not just have a presentation but also a
> report as well. As such, my research for this project
> would increase as well. I agree that my FYP report and
> presentation is not supposed to be done during work
> time. However, my reasearch for this project is to be
> done during office hours, to my understanding (correct
> me if I'm wrong). Research would include sales, admin,
> designing, printing/publishing and even editorial.
> Only today after attending my first assesment did I
> realise the expections of my lecturers.
>
> Secondly, please do understand that I am not a mass
> communication student. I am a molecular biotechnology
> student. As such, I do take quite some time to
> actually come with a quality article (in my means). As
> such, with the workload of admin work and research for
> my FYP in the future, I was afraid that I might
> disappoint you again. Hence, I told you to consider
> the articles that you would be assigning to me.
>
> Thirdly, since I am a molecular biotechnology student,
> I only take business modules as my elective. As such,
> I would say that my base in science is stronger than
> my business knowledge. Hence, I was worried that I
> might actually need more time for my research in
> business. I really would like to produce a quality FYP
> work as I would like score a grade A which gave rise
> to the above mentioned concern.
>
> Forthly, I am also under the context that my main
> priority in this office is to actually aid with the
> admin. And that, editorial was only given to me
> because of my interest to write. Hence, this explains
> why my priority was always towards the admin work.
>
> Fifthly, if I had known that I was allowed to hand in
> the article today on the 21st of December, I would
> have done it. It was only cause I thought that the die-
> die dateline was on the 20th. So, I thought it was
> better to inform you rather than not at all.
>
> Sixthly, I requested to write 3 articles for the next
> issue of the magazine only in the intention to make up
> for my mistake. If that is actually not allowed, then
> I'm sorry. I was not aware of this.
>
> I did not in anyway express my reluctance in writing
> anymore articles. I only wished to seek your
> understanding to assign to me a lighter weightload
> that would be manageable to me in order to prevent any
> form of disappointment, in the future.
>
> If you thought my tone, or content or something in
> this or the previous email was harsh then I'm very
> sorry.
>
> I will be handing in the article on botox by today.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Regards,
> Intern #12
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> CC: peggy@nowhereman.com; mace@nowhereman.com
> From: vincent@nowhereman.com
> Subject: Re: request
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:00:53 +0800
> To: Intern #12
>
>
> Sorry, I am not understanding ...I will not be
> assigning any more stories to you on the face of your
> below response.
>
>
>
>
> That's because your email seems to be telling me that
> the tasks assigned as part of your internship will now
> be secondary to your schoolwork (aka personal matters).
>
>
> Just so we are clear: the 50 pages of your FYP project
> is your own personal work to be done in your own
> personal time.
>
>
> No intern of ours has ever come in to this office to
> complete their schoolwork on our time and therefore at
> our expense.
>
>
> Perhaps you should also tell the rest of the office
> that you cannot commit very much to help with their
> stuff, since you have so many pages AND a presentation
> to finish. That would certainly help manage their
> expectations of you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
> On 21 Dec 2009, at 3:35 PM, Intern #12 Selvaraj wrote:
>
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> Okay, I will do the article today. Hope I'm not too
> late. My apologies for the delay.
>
> Also, I was only told today that I have one more full
> FYP presentation to do AND a report of 50 pages to
> submit in February, not just a 50 page report. Which
> means I will have to focus more on my FYP project
> research. So I'm unsure if I can commit very much into
> the article writing.
>
> Do consider and assign me what is appropriate.
>
> Thanks for the understanding.
>
> Regards,
> Intern #12
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: vincent@nowhereman.com
> Subject: Re: request
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:33:27 +0800
> To: Intern #12
>
>
> Hi Intern #12,
>
>
> Sorry to say, no to your request for now. Unless you
> hand in your story by today, I won't be assigning you
> any more. How can I trust you with 3 articles next
> issue if I can't trust you with just one now?
>
>
> Remember my email to you last Monday telling you and
> Leanna that we have exactly 7 days to hand in what's
> left of what you owe? That's 3 days per article - a
> lot of time to write.
>
>
> Meanwhile in the same 7 days, you've had 2 days of
> MC, you basically blew away Friday on your
> presentation, and now you are saying that driving and
> chinese classes will impose time constraints.
>
>
> Do you know what I do when I can't finish something on
> time? I work overtime. Guess who has to write your
> story if you don't write it?
>
>
> I leave it to you to decide which is more important.
>
>
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> On 21 Dec 2009, at 2:10 PM, Vince Wong wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vincent Wong
> Date: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM
> Subject: request
> To: filmlab@gmail.com
>
>
>
> And if i may, I would like to do 3 articles for the
> next issue of LiveWell baby to make up for this one.
>
> Since my next presentation for FYP is around late Feb,
> I will be free-er in Jan (since i still have admin
> stuff to do).
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vincent Wong
> Date: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM
> Subject: Help!
> To: filmlab@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> Hey Vincent,
>
>
> I'm so sorry but I think I would not be able to hand
> in the Botox beauty article. The presentation is
> taking longer than expected and Im still working on
> it.
>
>
> I could do it tom if I finish with the presentation
> soon but just to be on the safe side, I thought I
> rather take it as I can't do. ( I have driving and
> chinese lessons tom hence time constraint)
>
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience caused. As stated in my
> previous email, I was informed of the presentation at
> the last minute.
>
>
> Sorry and many thanks!!
>
>
> Intern #12
>
>
>
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> CC: peggy@nowhereman.com; mace@nowhereman.com
> From: vincent@nowhereman.com
> Subject: Re: request
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:00:53 +0800
> To: Intern #12
>
>
> Sorry, I am not understanding ...I will not be
> assigning any more stories to you on the face of your
> below response.
>
>
>
>
> That's because your email seems to be telling me that
> the tasks assigned as part of your internship will now
> be secondary to your schoolwork (aka personal matters).
>
>
> Just so we are clear: the 50 pages of your FYP project
> is your own personal work to be done in your own
> personal time.
>
>
> No intern of ours has ever come in to this office to
> complete their schoolwork on our time and therefore at
> our expense.
>
>
> Perhaps you should also tell the rest of the office
> that you cannot commit very much to help with their
> stuff, since you have so many pages AND a presentation
> to finish. That would certainly help manage their
> expectations of you.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
> On 21 Dec 2009, at 3:35 PM, Intern #12 Selvaraj wrote:
>
>
> Hi Vincent,
>
> Okay, I will do the article today. Hope I'm not too
> late. My apologies for the delay.
>
> Also, I was only told today that I have one more full
> FYP presentation to do AND a report of 50 pages to
> submit in February, not just a 50 page report. Which
> means I will have to focus more on my FYP project
> research. So I'm unsure if I can commit very much into
> the article writing.
>
> Do consider and assign me what is appropriate.
>
> Thanks for the understanding.
>
> Regards,
> Intern #12
>
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: vincent@nowhereman.com
> Subject: Re: request
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 14:33:27 +0800
> To: Intern #12
>
>
> Hi Intern #12,
>
>
> Sorry to say, no to your request for now. Unless you
> hand in your story by today, I won't be assigning you
> any more. How can I trust you with 3 articles next
> issue if I can't trust you with just one now?
>
>
> Remember my email to you last Monday telling you and
> Leanna that we have exactly 7 days to hand in what's
> left of what you owe? That's 3 days per article - a
> lot of time to write.
>
>
> Meanwhile in the same 7 days, you've had 2 days of
> MC, you basically blew away Friday on your
> presentation, and now you are saying that driving and
> chinese classes will impose time constraints.
>
>
> Do you know what I do when I can't finish something on
> time? I work overtime. Guess who has to write your
> story if you don't write it?
>
>
> I leave it to you to decide which is more important.
>
>
>
>
> Warm regards,
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> On 21 Dec 2009, at 2:10 PM, Vince Wong wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vincent Wong
> Date: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:40 AM
> Subject: request
> To: filmlab@gmail.com
>
>
>
> And if i may, I would like to do 3 articles for the
> next issue of LiveWell baby to make up for this one.
>
> Since my next presentation for FYP is around late Feb,
> I will be free-er in Jan (since i still have admin
> stuff to do).
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Vincent Wong
> Date: Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:19 AM
> Subject: Help!
> To: filmlab@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
> Hey Vincent,
>
>
> I'm so sorry but I think I would not be able to hand
> in the Botox beauty article. The presentation is
> taking longer than expected and Im still working on
> it.
>
>
> I could do it tom if I finish with the presentation
> soon but just to be on the safe side, I thought I
> rather take it as I can't do. ( I have driving and
> chinese lessons tom hence time constraint)
>
>
> Sorry for the inconvenience caused. As stated in my
> previous email, I was informed of the presentation at
> the last minute.
>
>
> Sorry and many thanks!!
>
>
> Intern #12
>
>
>
>
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